11 Comments »

1. Not on your list, but in Australia one of the people with the loudest voices is Melinda Tankard Reist: http://melindatankardreist.com/2010/04/equal-opportunity-objectification/

   She's the editor of a new book called 'Big Porn, Inc' which is contributed to by pretty much everyone on your list.

   Comment by SmJ — September 29, 2011 @ 3:31 pm

2. Piece on Shared Hope International founder Linda Smith: http://feministwhore.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/raising-awareness-about-the-anti-sex-trafficking-movement/

   I also have a video covering much of the same info here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8snA__4WQM&feature=channel_video_title

   These two vids below probably have enough info in them and enough links on the video pages that if you wanted to write something up it wouldn't take much time... I pretty much gave up on writing about these people/groups, because I know people too often don't even bother clicking links in text articles, and videos with a lot of screenshots was basically my way of forcing people to click the links, but anyway...

   Here is a vid on "Hunt Alternatives" - you didn't mention them, but they supply a lot of the financial backing to the abolition movement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V--n8nV9Oqo

   Here is a vid on Catharine MacKinnon's FATHER (senator, federal judge) - it sheds a lot of light on where she got her ideology, and he talks about her anti-porn efforts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nYTaHOymos

   Comment by FeministWhore — September 29, 2011 @ 3:43 pm

3. Furry Girl, was that you calling in to the Savage Love Podcast this week (episode 258)? There was a caller who name-dropped SWAAY in a comment about a previous show dealing with how/when sex workers should tell family and friends about their work. Either way (whether it was you calling or someone else), hooray for SWAAY.org getting a plug on the Lovecast!

   Comment by Kaje — September 29, 2011 @ 8:47 pm

4. I don't think the author of this post is necessarily anti-sex worker, (she's written about some of our issues before) but this particular post, and attendant comments, annoyed the crap out of me: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2011/09/12/outsourcing-porn/

   I posted once, and then was done.

   I'm not ready to give up on feminism - I care about my right to abort too much, also my IUD, also I live on the east coast and honestly, some of the annoying stuff you've described coming out of the SF scene sounds like a dream compared to this place. But DAMN, especially the academic side of feminism... I feel like along with the bullshit of "at least we DID something" comes "at least we WROTE about it," from academic circles generally, and feminist circles, as tho "shedding light on the issue" from somebody's non-sex worker perspective is necessarily useful at all. In this case, frankly, I think it wound up being harmful - it just turned into a "pro-sex workers are evil whore-recruiters for the patriarchy" fest. What really pissed me off is that the author wrote about a very sensitive issue, and then basically didn't moderate the thread, even when comments contained claims that were just patent falsehoods, and then really unhelpful slurs at any sex worker who spoke up. This happens a lot on Feministe, actually, every time an issue around sex work is raised - lack of moderation creates a situation where a sitch that was maybe just a bit fucked up to begin with ends up really fucked up. The only time I ever saw differently was when an Australian sex worker posted about a collective, worker owned brothel, which is great, but... not a reality at present, for most of us. And then the comments were basically all about how sex work would only be acceptable if it existed in a commune.

   It's sad coz I've been pretty much depending on Feministe for my Planned Parenthood news, and snipes at John Mayer whose music I kinda despise. Sigh.

   Comment by Miss C — September 29, 2011 @ 9:05 pm

5. Also: I see Janice Raymond in your list. Isn't she the same one who wrote "The Transexual Menace" about how trans people are all out to, you know, take over women's bodies like in The Body Snatchers and Destroy All That Is Sacred About Teh Wimminz by being trans OMG?!1!?!

   Lotta credibility there, mmm yeah.

   Comment by Miss C — September 29, 2011 @ 9:15 pm

6. JordanOwen1 on youtube has bunches of videos specifically addressing arguments from the anti-porn people. Recently he has done a point by point deconstruction of Gail Dines' Porn Land, which was just awesome. Even if you don't end up using his stuff, I recommend it for a good thing to watch.

   Comment by Azura Rose — September 30, 2011 @ 4:20 am

7. SmJ: Thanks for the heads up, I hadn't heard of her. However, since SWAAY is US-focused, and unless Reist starts making some big waves over here, I'm not going to put her on the list of top nutters to know.

   FeministWhore: Thanks, I'll check those out.

   Kaje: Yes, that was me. I hope I didn't come across super mumbly, I hate talking on the phone and leaving voicemails.

   Miss C: I don't know who that Jill person is on Feministe. I'm looking to round up just the biggest players. If I had to keep track of every feminist blogger who doesn't like porn, I'd need to hire several full-time employees. You said, "I'm not ready to give up on feminism - I care about my right to abort too much, also my IUD..." Who says you have to be a feminist to support reproductive rights? Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist, and she probably accomplished more for birth control rights than any feminist ever has. Also, who's to say that birth control is solely a female issue? Heaps of men care about not having unplanned pregnancies. (The birth control pill itself was developed by men.) Janice Raymond is already on the list. And she's not alone in being a feminist trans-hater, it is common amongst older feminists.

   Azura Rose: Thanks!

   Comment by Furry Girl — October 1, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

8. In the german- speaking part of the world, that would be http://www.emma.de. It's a radical feminist magazine organized around Alice Schwarzer. They claim to be in solidarity with prostitutes, but everything they write is in the typical "all prostitutes are abused, desperate or sell out female sexuality to patriarchy"- style. They also have a PorNO Campaign, which claims that pornography is visualized violence against women.

   Comment by Sina — October 4, 2011 @ 12:35 am

9. http://laurelin.wordpress.com/

   Comment by Luna — October 21, 2011 @ 10:44 am

10. Thanks for the link, Sina, but I'm trying to keep the list focused on American stuff. SWAAY doesn't aim to exclude other country's issues, just keep a focus on things I understand best.

    Luna: That is a private blog, I can't see the link.

    Comment by Furry Girl — November 8, 2011 @ 3:16 pm

11. Shelly Lubben -

    Shelly Lubben only did SIX porn movies! She was a hooker and drug addict before and after porn.
    http://www.thedevilandshelleylubben.com/

    Shelley Lies about her creditials-
    Shelley Lubben – Where is her credibility? What is she qualified to do? : Julie Meadows' Blog
    http://www.juliemeadows.com/blog/2010/07/14/shelley-lubben-where-is-her-credibility-what-is-she-qualified-to-do/

    oh and she's a filthy racist-
    Shelley Lubben = Fake, Liar, Addict, Racist - YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBWrCUsscs

    Shelly Lubben: Crouching Hooker, Public RACIST | BlasianBytch.com
    http://blasianbytch.com/?p=1672

    Comment by N'jaila — November 20, 2011 @ 7:52 am

12. Hi N'jaila: I'll check out your links. I know there are a bunch of anti-Shelley videos out there made by porn folk, but I don't want to use something that says Shelley is dishonest and a terrible person because she used to be a hooker. Being a hooker does not make a person a defacto liar/monster, and it's really shitty of porn people to hinge their argument against her on that so often. There are plenty of things wrong with Shelley, but her having been a prostitute is not one of them.

    Comment by Furry Girl — November 20, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URL

Comment policy for Feminisnt: I do not publish blatant insults and trolling. You must use a name/handle other than anonymous or asdf because I am tired of giving space to detractors who are too lazy to pick a fake handle and too scared to use a real one. I no longer publish comments bitching at me about how feminism is the greatest thing ever. And I may not publish your comment if I have already addressed that specific issue several times already. Read my responses to other comments before asking a new question. Finally, if your comment hinges on an obvious logical fallacy, I might not publish that, either, except to make fun of you. All new commentors have their first comment held for moderation. Commenting on my blog and taking up space on my server is a privilege, not a right.