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	<title>Comments on: Religions on sexuality: same-same, but different (the Dalai Lama and Buddhism edition)</title>
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	<description>I&#039;m an atheist who has been a full time pornographer and sex worker for almost 10 years. I&#039;m also a former &#34;sex-positive feminist&#34; who tired of trying to shoehorn my life into a useless ideology like a pair of ill-fitting high heels. I oppose the feminist doctrine that women are inherently feeble victims, brainwashed by &#34;the patriarchy,&#34; and in need of someone to protect and guide us. I operate SWAAY.org, the only American sex workers&#039; rights project aimed solely at public outreach and education. My politics are extremely socially permissive, but mixed on fiscal matters, and I don&#039;t identify with any one political party or label. My philosophy is informed primarily by Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse: &#34;I want you to be nice until it&#039;s time to not be nice.&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, being a horrible Leftie/anarchist/whatever I believe as long as its ecologically based really - this religious fluffiness comes to bother me near every time I hang out with anyone else from the Greenie culture. At least someone else sees what I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, being a horrible Leftie/anarchist/whatever I believe as long as its ecologically based really - this religious fluffiness comes to bother me near every time I hang out with anyone else from the Greenie culture. At least someone else sees what I do.</p>
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		<title>By: lovesickrobot</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovesickrobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you must know about Angie ( http://angietheantitheist.blogspot.com/ ) but on the off chance you don&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you must know about Angie ( <a href="http://angietheantitheist.blogspot.com/">http://angietheantitheist.blogspot.com/</a> ) but on the off chance you don't...</p>
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		<title>By: cici</title>
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		<dc:creator>cici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found this blog through Belle de Jour - as someone &#039;from the East&#039;, I find it endlessly irritating when white/western/anglos/whatever will tolerate Buddhism and not Christianity. So thank you. 

In theory you could make up a whole lot of bullshit about how Christianity is all about the love and only the New Testament and only about what Jesus and his disciples say, but that&#039;s theory, not practice. In theory Buddhism is all happy nirvana-seeking attachment-denying goodness, but in practice it&#039;s just as narrow-minded as any brand of Christianity I&#039;ve seen. And let&#039;s not forget the endless religious wars fought in the name of Buddhism. (Just look at what happened to the Manichaens in China during Buddhist rule, or for a more relevant and contemporary example, the Buddhists who burn Christian effigies and loot Christian shops in South Korea.) Sure, a few practitioners could come up with their own vanilla-flavoured white-washed version of Buddhism, but Buddhism practiced on a wide scale, Buddhism that believes in manifestations of bodhisattvas and such doesn&#039;t strike me as any more enlightened or tolerant than any other religion.

So anyway, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this blog through Belle de Jour - as someone 'from the East', I find it endlessly irritating when white/western/anglos/whatever will tolerate Buddhism and not Christianity. So thank you. </p>
<p>In theory you could make up a whole lot of bullshit about how Christianity is all about the love and only the New Testament and only about what Jesus and his disciples say, but that's theory, not practice. In theory Buddhism is all happy nirvana-seeking attachment-denying goodness, but in practice it's just as narrow-minded as any brand of Christianity I've seen. And let's not forget the endless religious wars fought in the name of Buddhism. (Just look at what happened to the Manichaens in China during Buddhist rule, or for a more relevant and contemporary example, the Buddhists who burn Christian effigies and loot Christian shops in South Korea.) Sure, a few practitioners could come up with their own vanilla-flavoured white-washed version of Buddhism, but Buddhism practiced on a wide scale, Buddhism that believes in manifestations of bodhisattvas and such doesn't strike me as any more enlightened or tolerant than any other religion.</p>
<p>So anyway, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: vskwitness</title>
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		<dc:creator>vskwitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I spend a fair amount of my intellect compromising when I know that the person I am compromising with would gladly smash me to rhetorical or actual bits if given the chance. I&#039;ve got a friend who says so many crazy things about his holiness and what every peyote based god crap she can that I refuse to see her anymore.  Now I may wade back into those waters infused with your refreshing irreverance.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I spend a fair amount of my intellect compromising when I know that the person I am compromising with would gladly smash me to rhetorical or actual bits if given the chance. I've got a friend who says so many crazy things about his holiness and what every peyote based god crap she can that I refuse to see her anymore.  Now I may wade back into those waters infused with your refreshing irreverance.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the the refreshing no bullshit tone of this blog. This piece is probably the best example of that.

The Lama rule of Tibet was one where class oppression was heavily enforced. Its ironic that the western left are so quick to yell &quot;free Tibet&quot; and follow the Dalai Lama - when Lama rule meant slavery and total lack of freedom for 95% of that country&#039;s population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the the refreshing no bullshit tone of this blog. This piece is probably the best example of that.</p>
<p>The Lama rule of Tibet was one where class oppression was heavily enforced. Its ironic that the western left are so quick to yell "free Tibet" and follow the Dalai Lama - when Lama rule meant slavery and total lack of freedom for 95% of that country's population.</p>
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		<title>By: Furry Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furry Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Surely we can learn to take the good and ignore the bad?&quot;

That&#039;s the worst defense of religion (or anything else) that I have ever heard.  Do you have that attitude about, say, drugs that have been shown to kill too many patients in trials, or food that&#039;s gone rotten, or wars where lots of civilians are killed?  Slavery?  Oppression of the many to benefit the few?  Climate change because powerful nations enjoy living excessively?

Yes, let&#039;s always ignore bad things and only acknowledge good things.  If there&#039;s a negligible and highly-debatable &quot;upside&quot; to anything, that&#039;s all that matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Surely we can learn to take the good and ignore the bad?"</p>
<p>That's the worst defense of religion (or anything else) that I have ever heard.  Do you have that attitude about, say, drugs that have been shown to kill too many patients in trials, or food that's gone rotten, or wars where lots of civilians are killed?  Slavery?  Oppression of the many to benefit the few?  Climate change because powerful nations enjoy living excessively?</p>
<p>Yes, let's always ignore bad things and only acknowledge good things.  If there's a negligible and highly-debatable "upside" to anything, that's all that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Bill. What people in Buddhist cultures actually do in practice is what it is, but Buddhist teachings call on people to renounce attachment, not pleasure. 

Attachment, as I understand it, is like addiction; there&#039;s nothing wrong with having money as long as having money isn&#039;t so important to you that you cannot be happy without it. Having sex - of any sort, with whomsoever you choose - is great, as long as you can be happy without it as well. I love my vibrator, and it&#039;s better than a coffee to put me in a good mood for the morning, but if I don&#039;t have it with me, that&#039;s ok too. If I couldn&#039;t get out of bed in the morning without that vibe, or if doing so left me in a bad mood all day, then it would be attachment, and no healthier than an &quot;attachment&quot; to cigarettes or cocaine.

As for the Dalai Lama being homophobic - one of the other core Buddhist teachings is to not take anything on faith, no matter who says it. To think for yourself, and show compassion to all. The Dalai Lama says some very insightful and wise things, and if he also says some hateful and unwise things, then surely we can learn to take the good and ignore the bad? His own religion and writings demand that we do no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bill. What people in Buddhist cultures actually do in practice is what it is, but Buddhist teachings call on people to renounce attachment, not pleasure. </p>
<p>Attachment, as I understand it, is like addiction; there's nothing wrong with having money as long as having money isn't so important to you that you cannot be happy without it. Having sex - of any sort, with whomsoever you choose - is great, as long as you can be happy without it as well. I love my vibrator, and it's better than a coffee to put me in a good mood for the morning, but if I don't have it with me, that's ok too. If I couldn't get out of bed in the morning without that vibe, or if doing so left me in a bad mood all day, then it would be attachment, and no healthier than an "attachment" to cigarettes or cocaine.</p>
<p>As for the Dalai Lama being homophobic - one of the other core Buddhist teachings is to not take anything on faith, no matter who says it. To think for yourself, and show compassion to all. The Dalai Lama says some very insightful and wise things, and if he also says some hateful and unwise things, then surely we can learn to take the good and ignore the bad? His own religion and writings demand that we do no less.</p>
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		<title>By: Furry Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furry Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting someone to say &quot;the right thing&quot; in front of one crowd in order to get their money and support, and then say otherwise everywhere else, is NOT actually a success.  Lying to people to fleece them of cash is hardly a noble trait.  And if the best thing your Dalai Lama has going for him is that you think he&#039;s less anti-gay than the Pope, well... fine, you &quot;win&quot;.  Congratulations on your awesome religion.  *rolls eyes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting someone to say "the right thing" in front of one crowd in order to get their money and support, and then say otherwise everywhere else, is NOT actually a success.  Lying to people to fleece them of cash is hardly a noble trait.  And if the best thing your Dalai Lama has going for him is that you think he's less anti-gay than the Pope, well... fine, you "win".  Congratulations on your awesome religion.  *rolls eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: Bill S. Preston Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill S. Preston Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Furry&quot;: I did wonder, after writing that comment, why I felt the need to be a bit dickish to someone who is clearly a force for good.  Trolling Fox News themselves would be no fun - you can&#039;t argue with sick minds.  Perhaps I should have just shut up.

It would be really nice if I could briefly sum up Buddhism, wouldn&#039;t it!  But, amazingly, I can&#039;t.  The issue I have with what you say in your article (but not in the comment, where you specify &quot;worldly&quot; pleasure) is that you don&#039;t acknowledge the possibility of pleasure in Buddhist practice itself.  And we are, sometimes, talking about an awful lot of pleasure.  The difference being that this pleasure is a by-product of practice, not the goal of the practice.

It&#039;s great that you have your wonderful and varied sexual outlets, and I agree with you that they should be available for all.  But speaking for myself, sometimes I just don&#039;t get what I want.  And when that happens, do I want to let my attachment to sex make me miserable, or do I want to try and examine it and see what&#039;s really going on inside me?  Is that sex-negative or sex-positive?

&quot;Saying &quot;the right thing&quot; when you&#039;re trying to win the support and money of liberal westerners doesn&#039;t count, in my book&quot;.  Of course it counts.  It&#039;s a whole lot more than Ratzinger&#039;s ever done.  If the DL is, indeed, a filthy black-hearted homophobe, then getting him this far is a good first step.  Let&#039;s keep going, not start a witch-hunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Furry": I did wonder, after writing that comment, why I felt the need to be a bit dickish to someone who is clearly a force for good.  Trolling Fox News themselves would be no fun - you can't argue with sick minds.  Perhaps I should have just shut up.</p>
<p>It would be really nice if I could briefly sum up Buddhism, wouldn't it!  But, amazingly, I can't.  The issue I have with what you say in your article (but not in the comment, where you specify "worldly" pleasure) is that you don't acknowledge the possibility of pleasure in Buddhist practice itself.  And we are, sometimes, talking about an awful lot of pleasure.  The difference being that this pleasure is a by-product of practice, not the goal of the practice.</p>
<p>It's great that you have your wonderful and varied sexual outlets, and I agree with you that they should be available for all.  But speaking for myself, sometimes I just don't get what I want.  And when that happens, do I want to let my attachment to sex make me miserable, or do I want to try and examine it and see what's really going on inside me?  Is that sex-negative or sex-positive?</p>
<p>"Saying "the right thing" when you're trying to win the support and money of liberal westerners doesn't count, in my book".  Of course it counts.  It's a whole lot more than Ratzinger's ever done.  If the DL is, indeed, a filthy black-hearted homophobe, then getting him this far is a good first step.  Let's keep going, not start a witch-hunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Furry Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furry Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bill&quot;: Yes, I am aware that on occasion WHEN IT POLITICALLY SERVES HIM, the Dalai Lama will say something neutral or even supportive of gays.  Saying &quot;the right thing&quot; when you&#039;re trying to win the support and money of liberal westerners doesn&#039;t count, in my book.  And if you can summarize Buddhism as anything other than having as its core focus of the goal to cease all desires, passions, and worldly pleasures (like fucking), I&#039;d love to hear your radical re-interpretation of the religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Bill": Yes, I am aware that on occasion WHEN IT POLITICALLY SERVES HIM, the Dalai Lama will say something neutral or even supportive of gays.  Saying "the right thing" when you're trying to win the support and money of liberal westerners doesn't count, in my book.  And if you can summarize Buddhism as anything other than having as its core focus of the goal to cease all desires, passions, and worldly pleasures (like fucking), I'd love to hear your radical re-interpretation of the religion.</p>
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