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1. This quote hits the nail on the head on why there are so many more females that wish to explore the adult industry, but end up not doing so. It is common that we dont want trouble, but the idea that our mere prescience in this aspect of media will be the immediate cause of such trouble is a fallacy.

   Comment by Vixen Blu — November 17, 2010 @ 6:58 pm

2. That sort of thing is called "magical thinking", and it's every bit as common in mainstream "feminism" as it is in religious fundamentalism. Unfortunately, the people who raise a loud outcry over "intelligent design" and other creationist propaganda in schools are conspicuously silent about this sort of rhetoric. :-(

   Comment by Maggie McNeill — November 18, 2010 @ 10:30 am

3. I was quite taken aback by the anti-feminist slant here until I realized that you hold many, many, many of the same views as feminists, you just don't use the work to identify yourself. I understand that and have known others of the same opinion.

   My question is, do you think there's a better word? Having a single word to describe the idea that women are fully human is kind of convenient at times, and as "awesome" as the word "awesome" is, I just don't think that does the job here!

   Comment by ANM — November 18, 2010 @ 6:14 pm

4. work = word, sorry!

   Comment by ANM — November 18, 2010 @ 6:15 pm

5. ANM: I do not identify as an *anti*-feminist per se, because that means I believe there's actually some sort of logical, consistent belief system encapsulated by the concept of "feminist". I've gone with "feminisnt" for my blog title, which I see as a more neutral way of saying I am most definitely not a feminist.

   Comment by Furry Girl — November 19, 2010 @ 1:16 am

6. So does the word "feminisnt," to you, mean that you believe that men and women are equal? Because you obviously do believe that even if you reject the label of feminist. I guess that's what I'm asking.

   Comment by ANM — November 19, 2010 @ 1:44 pm

7. ANM: Debating the meaning of the word feminism bores me. If you read my blog, you will understand my positions on various issues, positions that are too complex to boil down to single word or bumper sticker.

   Comment by Furry Girl — November 19, 2010 @ 5:59 pm

8. It's my dream that one day people will grasp the difference between correlation and causation. I just won't be holding my breath.

   And this is unrelated, but I saw you mention recently you got a copy of "Sex at Dawn". It's awful pop-science and the authors understanding of the subject of human sexuality about a mile-wide and an inch-deep. Just a heads-up.

   Comment by Jesse Alexander — November 19, 2010 @ 8:38 pm

9. "If you read my blog, you will understand my positions on various issues, positions that are too complex to boil down to single word or bumper sticker."

   Thank you! I've never understood how any thinking person can purchase her belief system in a package deal, tied up with a nice little ribbon and a label saying "feminist", "conservative", "Democrat", "Christian" or whatever. :-)

   Comment by Maggie McNeill — November 19, 2010 @ 10:54 pm

10. Would "gender equalitarian" do as a term to imply that one believes that women (and, by the way, men, too) are fully human?

    The problem with "feminism", for me at least, is that it -- like so many other activist terms of yore, e.g. 'socialist' -- has split and evolved into so many schools of thought who tenously share the idea that 'women are fully human' but clearly don't consider that enough: the specific consequences of women's full humanity are enthusiastically fought over, and various groups throw stones at each other for drawing the 'wrong conclusions', etc. etc. etc.

    A label that can apply to the opinions of such diverse people as Violet Blue and Catharine MacKinnon, Camille Paglia and Gloria Steinem, Wes Farrell and Sarah Palin... and a label that, simultaneously, is 'patented' by various groups who only want to 'bestow' it on those who they deem worthy... is quickly becoming uninformative.

    It is interesting to wonder, of course, if this is the fate of any term that describes idea-based activism -- perhaps even ultimately for my own suggestion, 'gender equalitarianism'? That may be an argument in favor of FurryGirl's decision to have full texts rather than labels to defend her opinions.

    I'm not quite there yet -- I like words, in many ways; and I still think that labels for idea-based activisms can be useful -- but I can see FurryGirl's place from where I stand.

    Comment by Asehpe — December 20, 2010 @ 3:53 pm

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