Comments on: Frequently Addressed Accusation: "Porn objectifies women as sex objects!" http://www.feminisnt.com/2009/frequently-addressed-accusation-porn-objectifies-women-as-sex-objects/ I'm a pornographer, sex worker, atheist, and former "sex-positive feminist" who grew tired of trying to shoehorn my life into a feminist analysis. I have liberated myself from women's liberation, and it feels glorious. I'm now sharing my observations as a politically-minded smut peddler, ethical slut, and staunch skeptic. I despise people who project their insecurities onto others, or force sex workers into only two roles: helpless victims and evil patriarchy-colluders. I love spicy food, vegan lip balm, and the word "pollywog". Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:19:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Christine http://www.feminisnt.com/2009/frequently-addressed-accusation-porn-objectifies-women-as-sex-objects/#comment-45 Christine Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:29:07 +0000 http://www.feminisnt.com/?p=44#comment-45 I agree with you on this, especially in regard to your contrast with menial labour, but I think the mainstream porn world has alot to answer for. I agree with you on this, especially in regard to your contrast with menial labour, but I think the mainstream porn world has alot to answer for.

]]> By: dclaudekatz http://www.feminisnt.com/2009/frequently-addressed-accusation-porn-objectifies-women-as-sex-objects/#comment-17 dclaudekatz Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:51:24 +0000 http://www.feminisnt.com/?p=44#comment-17 I think even the term “objectification” is misleading. We don’t “objectify” people; we just fail to “subjectify” them. When you encounter someone for the first time, they <i>are</i> an object to you. All you know about them is what you perceive with your senses. You can only guess about their subjective experience, and in the beginning, your guesses are as likely as not to be wrong. If you approach someone from the beginning “without objectification”, you’re making the often unwarranted assumption that you know something about their subjective experience: otherwise, the subject is just a blank slate. If you try to subjectify someone too quickly in an attempt to avoid “objectifying” them, you’re kind of invading their personal experiential space in a way that is more harmful to them than if you had just allowed them to be the object that they initially are. I’d also note that, at least from my experience, good porn often encourages the viewer to subjectify the people in it. When I watch someone else experiencing sexual pleasure, it’s more a case of participating vicariously in their pleasure rather than being thrilled by the outward signs of it. I think even the term “objectification” is misleading. We don’t “objectify” people; we just fail to “subjectify” them. When you encounter someone for the first time, they are an object to you. All you know about them is what you perceive with your senses. You can only guess about their subjective experience, and in the beginning, your guesses are as likely as not to be wrong. If you approach someone from the beginning “without objectification”, you’re making the often unwarranted assumption that you know something about their subjective experience: otherwise, the subject is just a blank slate. If you try to subjectify someone too quickly in an attempt to avoid “objectifying” them, you’re kind of invading their personal experiential space in a way that is more harmful to them than if you had just allowed them to be the object that they initially are.

I’d also note that, at least from my experience, good porn often encourages the viewer to subjectify the people in it. When I watch someone else experiencing sexual pleasure, it’s more a case of participating vicariously in their pleasure rather than being thrilled by the outward signs of it.

]]> By: Iamcuriousblue http://www.feminisnt.com/2009/frequently-addressed-accusation-porn-objectifies-women-as-sex-objects/#comment-15 Iamcuriousblue Thu, 28 May 2009 04:26:22 +0000 http://www.feminisnt.com/?p=44#comment-15 This post is so full of win its not even funny! Its basically everything I've ever had to say about the "objectification" argument concerning porn, but in one neat, succinct, well-written post. I am so linking to this posting every time this subject rears its head on the Internets! This post is so full of win its not even funny! Its basically everything I've ever had to say about the "objectification" argument concerning porn, but in one neat, succinct, well-written post. I am so linking to this posting every time this subject rears its head on the Internets!

]]> By: Furry Girl http://www.feminisnt.com/2009/frequently-addressed-accusation-porn-objectifies-women-as-sex-objects/#comment-13 Furry Girl Mon, 18 May 2009 21:03:35 +0000 http://www.feminisnt.com/?p=44#comment-13 Well, it sure beats pouring out all my energy on adult webmaster boards. Well, it sure beats pouring out all my energy on adult webmaster boards.

]]> By: Far-L http://www.feminisnt.com/2009/frequently-addressed-accusation-porn-objectifies-women-as-sex-objects/#comment-12 Far-L Mon, 18 May 2009 20:48:23 +0000 http://www.feminisnt.com/?p=44#comment-12 Well if the porn thing doesn't work out I think you definitely have a knack for writing! ;-) Well if the porn thing doesn't work out I think you definitely have a knack for writing! ;-)

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